jwagner
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I like the home run call review- it makes sense because a bad call their changes the score on one play.
I am against expanding the replay thing though.... I just don't want 6 hour games and as I said today, I like the human element, even from the umpires. Am I alone?
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bromer
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Wags, couldn't disagree more with ya,,,, by the time the manager gets done arguing the call, gets back in his dugout, the call could of been corrected, too much technology available to have a post season of horrific calls taint these games.... This whole post season talk has been about the blown calls, not the games, and that is not good... If you want faster games, limit how many times Andy Pettite can throw over to first base with the runner a step off the bag!!! haha |
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jwagner
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soxfan1
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I'd like to see the rule used for fair and foul calls down the line and any other outfield mishap, like the missed call in the Twins/Yanks series. Let's keep the umps in charge of all infield calls. They should be in position to make all of those calls.The best umps should call all of the playoff games, not the rotational system that was in play this year. Umpires should be graded on every game they call by an umpire official in attendance. Bad umps after several warnings should be fired for incompetence. They should not be tenured for life!! If the umpire's union will not agree with some sort of grading system with teeth in it, then lock them out and bring in replacements. There are thousands of guys & gals out there that could do a good job. |
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bromer
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Wags, the Umps are there to get the calls right, not guess at it (like the Damon tag from 3rd last series) like that umpire did (on 2 calls) because he didn't bother to move to get into position. I'm against balls and strikes, but I'm still waiting for Ryan Howard to touch home plate from last night.. |
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RyanCampbell
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I think the most important thing is to get the call right. The way I think of it is how would you feel if your favourite team lost game 7 of the World Series in the bottom of the 9th inning because of a botched call? I think you would probably be in favour of replay then.
Obviously things like balls and strikes arn't up for debate, but replay could be used to make the right calls for home runs, foul balls, tag-ups and close plays at the bases. From my experince watching hockey and football, two sports that use replay extensively, it hasn't added much time to the games and certainly makes the end product a lot better.
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jwagner
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I can accept the lines, but I am against replay for infield calls.
I am very much for creating a system that is meant to put the best umpires in the post-season, instead of the current one which is meant to balance out the post-season bonuses.
I recognize umpires can't be in the best position all the time, but I am willing to take my chances, as its an element I enjoy.
Be careful, or balls and strikes will be called by Pitchtrax with a light system behind home plate to keep the count.
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RyanCampbell
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I can definitely understand people not wanting replay making calls on the base paths. There is definitely something nostalgic about the human element. Just personal preference though.
You are definitely right about the rotational system in the playoffs though. If the best players are out there so should the best umpires. The Pirates don't get to compete in the playoffs just because "it's their turn".
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jwagner
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Heard from a very high up sort from MLB that there is not going to be an expansion of instant replay anytime soon... perhaps not until this commissioner retires. Selig is very against it.
Look for the umpires and the umpire system to get a big overhaul.
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RyanCampbell
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thirstymac
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Maybe its time to look at the role of the official scorer. They are appointed by the league, sits in the press box and determines whether a play is a hit or an error, a wild pitch or a passed ball or even sometimes no play at all.
Why not redefine the role and make them a part of the umpire crew.
Utilizing the latest technology, the official scorer can serve as "an eye in the sky" and an additional resource for making fast and correct decisions.
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mstreet
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I guess I'm a bit of a purist and would prefer that instant reply at least hold where it is (no chance of it going away now that the TV genie's out of the bottle). As J says, if you want a "perfect" game, then let's get the umps off the field and call it all by cameras. Allow more instant replay and that's where we're headed.
With that in mind, however, I'm all for careful scrutiny of umpires throughout the season and (especially) postseason. I think umps should have the discretion and guts to huddle up after any difficult call to see if they got the right angle on the play.
The other problem with reversing on-field calls--like fair-foul calls--is where to put the runners? If that Twins call gets reversed, who do you allow to score? The advantage of the HR call is that it's a dead-ball decision: either the ball cleared the wall, or everyone stays where they are.
At some point, we just have to let the guys on the field play and not think we can micromanage every part of the game. Baseball, the only major US team game played without a clock, needs to preserve its human aspects. Umps make mistakes, the same way players do, and that's just part of the game.
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